Anyone know this 914/6GT

[varunan123]

Here is a video of what looks to be at the factory test-maybe weissach-there are RSR's and this 914/6GT-with weird front flares and front large cibie lights and no side bottom treatment???

Raj

http:www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzEXX4ScWLc&feature=related

[davep]

No idea. Sorry.

[gms]

looks like one of the Monte Carlo (http://www.roadglue.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177) cars

[Gustl]

could be any of the factory GTs, but i dont think that it's one of the Monte cars, due to the fact that the Monte was during winter and the Monte GTs are early MY'71 cars - that would be late 1971
the scenery doesn't look like winter to me ...

[varunan123]

Full fledged RSR's weren't running til 1973,this one seems to show a full RSR at the track-suggesting that it maybe 1973-if it is 1973 what was this car testing-could it be a test bed for 916's??? that is why originally posted it.


Raj

[gms]

The 916s were 1971 chassis that were finished later that year

[9146racing]

the 917-10 indicates 1972 . the RSR places it late 1972/early 73 for sure. it looks like march/april to me.

is the 914-6 a test mule? brakes, suspension?

[varunan123]

I believe this was in spring of 1973 due to the RSR.The 914/6 seems to have no roll,bar,black boxed/taped area next to wiper-gas access,red license plate.Certainly the lack of roll bar is interesting-and what were they testing since the 914/6 and 916 were over???

Raj

here are the possibilities

914 043 0737-plate EN-MP1
914 043 1732-plate S-X 7495
914 143 0139-plate S-Y 7114
914 143 0140-plate S-Y 7115 and S 04624 red plate as ONS R1 car
914 143 0141-plate S-Y 7116

I think it maybe the ONS car,altough this car had a small V type roll bar?? maybe it's another completely different test mule but for what??

Raj

[gms]

looks like it starts with an S

[gms]

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[9146racing]

i am aware that the development for the 914 was pretty much over, but most components were interchangeable. Brakes, some suspension parts, engine and more. as i worked in Weissach i saw Audi 100 with 928 engines run on the test track, allthough the 928 was introduced since a couple of years. some cars were just plain test mules. but i am just guessing here what the video is about. if it is 1973 (which i really believe) it is only the first year after the production of the 914-6 ended. i hope somebody can shed light on this interresting topic.

[Eric_Shea]

Speaking of test mules... wasn't there a Cepia 914-6 with a 930 drivetrain (and late model bumpers... placing it in a 75-76 timeframe)?

Enter Wolfgang with some photos?

Sorry Raj... this probably doesn't help the cause. That said, I would put my money on there being a 914-6/GTish test mule out there though. Say you want to test this new RSR setup in both rear and mid-engine configurations. As mentioned, most components were interchangable. Nothing better than a 914-6 chassis for that.

[Gustl]

Speaking of test mules... wasn't there a Cepia 914-6 with a 930 drivetrain (and late model bumpers... placing it in a 75-76 timeframe)?

Enter Wolfgang with some photos?


I guess you talk about this b/w photo out of the DGVWPB
this was a customer's special order, not a test mule

[varunan123]

Is this car chassis 19 as well or another,posted on armando's website with those strange flares with factory plates S-M 2383.Check out the lack of roll bar,rear rubber tie down orientation,lack of any insignia at the back.

Raj


http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/46513717

[Eric_Shea]

I guess you talk about this b/w photo out of the DGVWPB
this was a customer's special order, not a test mule

I'll bet it is... I had it in my head it was a factory car built around the time the 930 came out.

[Eric_Shea]

Raj,

Visually, that's pretty close for the front flares. The car on the track looks to have proper GT flares on the rear though. That could be a development issue to allow larger tires as the HP increased. There so much room up front I doubt they would be needed for a test car.

Again, as a test car, it may never have had a roll bar added.

[varunan123]

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Glenn

I think the plates start out with S-P17.Which makes it after the hockenheim car but before the S-Y cars.

Raj

[SlideValve911RSR]

looks like one of the Monte Carlo (http://www.roadglue.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177) cars

Hi Glenn, I think you ARE right... :eek:

Look at the hood, what is that suspecious square-looking patch just like the "Shell" rubber cover on the Monte GT? Why do the integrated CIBIE bumper lights have the same "rounded cut-out relief" at the top of the bumper light opening to allow a better fit? See the attached two photos...

If you follow this link http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/22237400 then look at the middle GT, the one with the " P O R S C H E " sticker at the top of the bumper. lol

Someone is going to have to convince me that this is NOT one of the Monte Carlo cars... :cool:

[Gustl]

not pro or con, just a statement: the Monte GTs already had the roll cages / bars :rolleyes:

[SlideValve911RSR]

not pro or con, just a statement: the Monte GTs already had the roll cages / bars :rolleyes:

...which can be easily removed on or off... They were a "bolt-on" item, not welded, please see here http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/image/54417604 ;)

[varunan123]

Armando

Why the flared front prototype-like flares.Which was not on the monte cars.Also,the front bumper has the white porsche insignia which one of the monte cars had but not the one you posted.But,i am trying to reconcile why Porsche would go backwards on the front flares and the plates are different.One other possibility is that it was a test mule for the monte car development thus the similar front fascia.But,who knows other than the factory or someone who was there.what could they have been testing RSR development,924,928???Porsche was famous for cut and paste.If it is a monte car and became a test mule i can see no logical reason to remove the roll bar.

Raj

[gms]

Armando

Why the flared front prototype-like flares.Which was not on the monte cars.Also,the front bumper has the white porsche insignia which one of the monte cars had but not the one you posted.But,i am trying to reconcile why Porsche would go backwards on the front flares and the plates are different.One other possibility is that it was a test mule for the monte car development thus the similar front fascia.But,who knows other than the factory or someone who was there.what could they have been testing RSR development,924,928???Porsche was famous for cut and paste.If it is a monte car and became a test mule i can see no logical reason to remove the roll bar.

Raj
Raj,
All the cars had the white "Porsche" on the front bumper during the race
I just don't see prototype fenders on the car in the video, do you have a better resolution copy of this?

[Gustl]

just some thought on this topic ...

9140430709
9140432542
9140432543

all these cars were used for '71 Monte Training
they all were signal orange factory GTs without roll bar ...

9140430983

signal orange GT test car without roll bar

[Gustl]

oh ... and

I'm a little confused that you discuss white Porsche scripts on the front bumper ... this is just a sticker that could be removed in less than a second ;)