What is a 914/6 Engine Worth?

[eyeson]

Any estimates what a 914/6 engine is worth? I don't know the condition of the motor but it is a 914/38, complete Carbs to Heat Exchangers, but minus the tin. Trans is also with it. I haven't picked it up yet but was thinking about it.

Greg

[dug]

What number is it? I know some cars looking for their motors.

Unless the serial number happens to match your car, not a whole lot. It is a usable flat 6 case to build a small bore motor, but is not the preference for building a hot rod engine. Only reason to have one is for originality, and you are better off finding a car with the original engine than using a random 901/38 motor.

If you don't have the original motor, then put something fun in there. My original case will stay on the shelf, while I run a 930/08 replacement case 3.0 bored to 3.2 Max Moritz style 9.8:1, with Carillo rods, S cams and 46 webers.

That said, I have bought two 901/38 cases/engines each for around $500 in the last 10 years, one with a transmission. The transmission is more interesting because it has different gears than a 4 cylinder car. 4 cyl trans have A F N V ZD, 6 are A GA O V ZA. So second and third are a bit taller, and 5th is shorter.

cheers,
dug

[carr914]

Well put Dug,

I too have my original -6 cases on a shelf, while the cars have a 2.7RS and a 2.8 Twin-Plug respectfully.

I think that the OP may have been referring to a motor that Carquip (?) in Colorado had for sale on eBay. It was a 71 motor.

T.C.

[dug]

A 1971 case might have a tiny bit more value than a 1970, but only because you have a smaller group of engines looking for their cars. So you might be more likely to find the original. And 71 cars might be slightly more valuable than 70s due to the lower number, but I haven't seen this pattern yet. Condition and color seem to influence 914-6 prices more than 70 vs 71.

I also overlooked the fact that you said complete with carbs and heat exchangers. Weber 40s sell in the $800-1200 range depending on condition. 914-6 heat exchangers vary widely depending on condition $400-1500 or more. 914-6 engine tin is worth $500ish. I was mainly referring to the engine case and the internals. The non-counterweighted crank, 2.0 rods, cast iron cylinders, low compression pistons, small valve and port heads, are all undesirable for the most part. The oil cooler is unique to the six if that is still on the motor, worth $300ish?.

There's one more bit on the transmission. A six trans will have the bell crank for the throttle linkage on the intermediate plate too.

So if everything is in average condition, I'd say a 71 901/38 with carbs, HEs, oil cooler and transmission is worth $2500-3000 in parts. If you have 71 car, maybe some more?

dug

[eyeson]

Thanks for the replies. I need to get the number off the engine. My guess is the car is not around anymore but I'll get some numbers.

Negative on Carquip. I did not know they had a 901/38 engine for sale. I have not dealt with Carquip in years. No problems there just have not needed anything from them. I should call Tom and see what he got for that motor.

Ha. I just look at my orginal post. 914/38? What was I thinking. Did someone change that? Where's Homeland Security when you need them?

HE's are in really good shape and I agree with your assessment of the carbs. I did not realize the oil cooler was special. I'm looking at building a couple of race motors and I know that this is not a good candidate to build big horsepower. The other motor I have is a 74 7r motor. So I'm looking at building A and B motors. The 7r for pure horsepower and a B motor for lapping. I was thinking if the price is right I'd use this motor for lapping. I just did not want to start modifing the heads, cams and oiling system if there is some intrinsic value to these motors as stock. The transmission I'd part with as I prefer the side shifters. It is an interesting point you make about the gear ratios, but no help for me.

Greg

[dug]

There's a 71 901/38 #6414131 with webers and oil cooler, but no tin or HEs on ebay listed at $4000. Seems like way too much to me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260452032934

dug

[carr914]

my mistake, that is the engine that I was referencing to that I thought was being sold by CarQuip. Yes, way too much $$$

T.C.

[gms]

you could buy a core 3.0 L for $4K

[eyeson]

[QUOTE=dug;5181]What number is it? I know some cars looking for their motors.


Engine Number: 6405733
Trans Number: 7502635

Greg

[Gustl]

Engine Number: 6405733
very late MY'70 914-6 engine (901/38 = US version)



Trans Number: 7502635
very late MY'70 914-6 manuel transmission


very likely matching numbers

might belong to a VIN between 914.0.43.2600 and .2668

[dug]

The trans on VIN #2624 is 2626.
So it's probably from a car within 10 or so of that VIN.
2633ish:)

[Towarish]

how could I find the matchin motor# for my sixer ?

[gms]

Porsche usually will provide that information on a Certificate of Authenticity
If you provide the VIN number I could tell you what range the number should be in, I will also need to know if it is US delivery or ROW.

[Towarish]

Porsche usually will provide that information on a Certificate of Authenticity
If you provide the VIN number I could tell you what range the number should be in, I will also need to know if it is US delivery or ROW.
in the "Geburtsurkunde", which is the german certificate of authenticity, Porsche does not tell you,what would be the matching number. They just don´t confirm your number.Any possible range would not help. But thank you anyway Glenn. Guess I got to find a friend in Stuttgart.