Ginther Prepared SCCA Racers

[gms]

I have seen one car that claims to be an original Ginther car from 1970.
I think the owners name was Burt Wall ?? anyone have any info on this car?

914.043.1177 - Gregg? (http://www.roadglue.com/forum/showthread.php?t=251)
914.043.2195 - Hindson (http://www.roadglue.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3421)
914.043.???? - Harrison/Holbert (http://www.roadglue.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267)

Here is a picture of Ginther's shop in 1970

[JKH]

Is this the car ?
Bob Hindson :http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BobHindson.htm
Glenn got anymore pics ?
911 lemans effort decal

[Lawrence]

Was the Ginther windscreen a reversable modification?

David Lee has an excerpt from an early Pano that claims my car once had a Ginther windscreen. It could have been a typo in the VIN, but I've always wondered.

[gms]

Was the Ginther windscreen a reversable modification? Yes you need to re-weld the windshield frame back on


David Lee has an excerpt from an early Pano that claims my car once had a Ginther windscreen. It could have been a typo in the VIN, but I've always wondered. Is it a 4 or 6, which Pano, I can look into it.

[Lawrence]

It's a /6. VIN number... 9140432318.

I'd really have to dig back to find which Pano... give me a bit.

[gms]

Dec. 1974 Pg. 36

metallic blue/black, AM/FM stereo Blaupunkt, tinted glass, QI lights, Semperits 185/70VR, Ginther suspension, Filtron air cleaners, S distributor, perfect mechanically, garaged, no rust, immac. cond. Must sell.

[Lawrence]

Wow... that was quick! :)

I wonder what a Ginther suspension was... maybe it was set up by him. It had horrible KYBs on when I bought it.

[gms]

Wow... that was quick! :)
I have it all in a Database

I wonder what a Ginther suspension was...
I have a picture of that somewhere...I will take a look

[davep]

Was the Ginther windscreen a reversible modification?

Not really. The windshield frame was removed. However, on #0033 the owner did it in such a way as to be able to pin the windshield frame in the same manner as a Speedster. Thus it could be made open or closed in about 20 minutes. This is the only known car to run both ways in period.

[gms]

Yes you need to re-weld the windshield frame back on

Here is a picture of where they cut the windshield frame (Ginther's shop 1970)

[davep]

There is $1500 or more in seals right there. The shame of it all.

[gms]

Here is the auxiliary oil cooler in the rear trunk

[JKH]

Great reading and nostalgia

[gms]

The 1970 ARRC Program Cover

[gms]

The sad results of the 1970 ARRC Race

[davep]

Nine 914/6 listed there. How many do we know the VIN's for the cars?

[gms]

Nine 914/6 listed there. How many do we know the VIN's for the cars?

I know ZERO

[davep]

Ouch, that is important history lost.

[JKH]

This could be one? 1980 pthoto SIR seattle Wa. O few years ago I know this guy still had it .

[davep]

Any time you have an opportunity, get the VIN and something on the history of the car. Since many cars change a lot over the years, the VIN is the only thing to tie things together.

[gms]

Road Atlanta 1970 ARRC

[dennisc]

Bob Hindson restored his 914-6 sometime in the mid eightys. The car was in California and was pictured in an artical of Excellence or Pano a couple of years ? ago. It would take me forever to find the article. Maybe someone remembers it.

[gms]

I found the picture of the original Ginther car I was referring to

[dennisc]

That is Hindsons old car. I'm sure it is in California because of the blurb in Excellance a while back.

[gms]

More pictures

[gms]

914/6 SCCA Results in C-Production

[olav]

Here is the auxiliary oil cooler in the rear trunk

I guess the aux oil cooler is there because they didn't want to cut the car up?

I wonder where the oil lines are coming from?

Not sure how well that worked since no air is through and the trunk itself gets pretty hot.

Interesting just the same.

[gms]

I guess the aux oil cooler is there because they didn't want to cut the car up?
I think the rules prohibited doing so


I wonder where the oil lines are coming from?

I would be interested to see if they had a thermostat, or if it was connected to the engine and oil tank

[gms]

That is Hindsons old car. I'm sure it is in California because of the blurb in Excellance a while back.
Hello Dennis good to see you here!
If you do run across the article please let me know

[gms]

Ginther ad from Panorama in 1973

[crresind]

I beleive that the Ginther car refered to, #42, is owned by Ray Stewart of Monterey and is in the Wayne Baker shop in San Diego, Calif. I will tyr to get photos and VIN.

[gms]

I beleive that the Ginther car refered to, #42, is owned by Ray Stewart of Monterey and is in the Wayne Baker shop in San Diego, Calif. I will tyr to get photos and VIN.
That would be great! I have always wondered how early (low serial number) the Ginther car's were.

[gms]

Wow... that was quick! :)

I wonder what a Ginther suspension was... maybe it was set up by him. It had horrible KYBs on when I bought it.

I finally found it!
SCCA would not allow holes to be cut into the body to mount a swaybar so Ginther developed an under the body swaybar. He also used the dual adjustable rear shocks and harder than stock bushing.

[Lawrence]

Glenn, thank you for the picture!

I was under the impression that all 914-6s came with front and rear swaybars as stock. Is there any benefit to adding another, or am I incorrect?

[gms]

Glenn, thank you for the picture!

I was under the impression that all 914-6s came with front and rear swaybars as stock. Is there any benefit to adding another, or am I incorrect?
Lawrence,
All 914/6s did not come with a swaybar it was an option. the swaybar in the picture is a replacement/substitution for the stock unit. it look like it hangs pretty low to me.

Does your car still have this swaybar? do you have the double adjustable shocks in the rear?

[Dave_Darling]

I don't think the Sixes had swaybars, stock. I'm not even sure they were an option until 73, when the Six was no more!

--DD

[gms]

I don't think the Sixes had swaybars, stock. I'm not even sure they were an option until 73, when the Six was no more!

--DD
Option M 404: Front and rear sway bars available on 914/6 71 & 72 - 70?

[davep]

I'm guessing the VIN's are very low, like under 0030. 0033 was one of the cars brought in about the earliest, and Ginther had his cars at that time or earlier.

[gms]

Interior of Alan Johnson's car

[gms]

I think this is the mirror on the racer above

[gms]

an advertisement

[gms]

This could be one? 1980 pthoto SIR seattle Wa. O few years ago I know this guy still had it .
#76 - Gordon Barron Jr - Sherwood OR - Porsche 914-6?